\u2018And I\u2019m like \u201cbitch what?\u201d… It\u2019s like she erased me.\u2019<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=”credit-name” _builder_version=”4.20.4″ _module_preset=”default” text_font=”Black Han Sans|||on|||||” text_text_color=”#000000″ header_4_font=”|||on|||||” header_4_text_align=”center” text_orientation=”center” custom_margin=”||0px||false|false” global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content”]
Words by Charley Ross<\/strong><\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=”https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2025\/06\/GettyImages-2208055117-scaled.jpg” alt=”Margaret Cho” title_text=”The Drop: Margaret Cho” force_fullwidth=”on” _builder_version=”4.20.4″ _module_preset=”default” hover_enabled=”0″ global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content” sticky_enabled=”0″][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.20.4″ _module_preset=”default” hover_enabled=”0″ global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content” sticky_enabled=”0″] Margaret Cho has spoken out on her experiences with fellow queer comedian Ellen DeGeneres. And the recollections she has are not good.<\/p>\n On a recent episode of The Kelly Mantle Show podcast Cho described DeGeneres as \u2018somebody that I\u2019ve known for such a long time\u2019 adding that \u2018the public perception of her is more true\u2019 now, referring to the backlash DeGeneres experienced after allegations that her show The Ellen DeGeneres show was in fact a toxic workplace, in direct opposition of her \u2018be kind\u2019 mantra.<\/p>\n ‘She just wasn’t nice to me,’ Cho said. ‘I don’t know what her problem was.’<\/p>\n Cho referred to DeGeneres as \u2018mean\u2019. \u201cShe was like, a mean girl,\u2019 she said. \u2018But also she would be real nice. I think she always had kind of negative feelings towards me because her girlfriends and wives always liked me\u2026 There’s a kind of woman [who] loves a female comic.\u2019<\/p>\n The comedian opened up further about her history with DeGeneres, and the ways in which she would pretend that they\u2019d just met, when they in fact went way back. \u2018Ellen was really weird and not nice to me for most of my career. I opened for her in the 1980s, when she was a headliner in comedy clubs and way before her big fame. So then later, when I would do her talk show in the 2000s, she acted like we just met\u2026 \u2018And I\u2019m like, bitch, what? Like, that\u2019s weird. We go way back. It\u2019s so creepy and weird.\u2019<\/p>\n Cho reflected that this behaviour from DeGeneres has made her feel shut out within the industry by someone who was viewed as a LGBTQIA+ pioneer when it came to representation and visibility.<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=”https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2025\/06\/GettyImages-1232449687-scaled.jpg” alt=”ellen degeneres” title_text=”ABC’s %22Jimmy Kimmel Live%22 – Season 19″ _builder_version=”4.20.4″ _module_preset=”default” hover_enabled=”0″ global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content” sticky_enabled=”0″][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.20.4″ _module_preset=”default” hover_enabled=”0″ global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content” sticky_enabled=”0″] ‘It was like she erased me,’ she described, adding that her experience of being a queer Asian comic was that white LGBTQIA+ voices were largely prioritised in mainstream media. Cho added that those that didn\u2019t fit this mould were excluded \u2013 an experience that queer women of colour like herself often experienced.<\/p>\n \u2018I was the only one,\u2019 she said. ‘The only Asian American, the only queer Asian person in comedy\u2026 Even when I was there, I was invisible. There was no space for me to belong.’<\/p>\n Fans have felt impacted by Cho\u2019s story, with one commenting online:’She deserves to be remembered for what she’s done, not just what she had to survive.’<\/p>\n Cho also aired a grievance she had during an appearance from David Bowie on The Ellen DeGeneres Show.<\/p>\n \u2018The night before, I had come to his show wearing this giant Chinese emperor outfit. He was really thrilled about it and he talked at length about it. And she cut it out of the show, which made me so mad,\u2019 she said of DeGeneres.<\/p>\n \u2018The producer, who is a really good friend of mine, had to call me and tell me, \u201cI can\u2019t believe she did this, she cut it out of the show. But you need to know that he was going on and on about your outfit. He loves you. God said your name,\u201d\u2019 she explained.<\/p>\n \u2018I don\u2019t know if it was personal, maybe it was for time,\u2019 Cho added. \u2018But still, I\u2019m going to take it personally just because I decided to.\u2019<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=”custom-quote” _builder_version=”4.20.4″ _module_preset=”default” header_2_font=”Libre Bodoni|||on|||||” header_2_text_align=”center” header_2_text_color=”#333333″ header_2_font_size=”40px” header_2_line_height=”1.2em” global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content”] During the opening night of her Ellen\u2019s Last Stand \u2026 Up Tour in Los Angeles earlier this year, she opened up further about how the backlash affected her. \u2018Honestly, I’m making jokes about what happened to me but it was devastating, really,\u2019 she said. \u2018I just hated the way the show ended. I love that show so much and I just hated that the last time people would see me is that way.\u2019<\/p>\n When a fan asked her, \u2018Do you think you\u2019ll seek revenge for those who have wronged you?\u2019 Met with cheers, DeGeneres responded: \u2018I don\u2019t know who wronged me. I don\u2019t even know who these people are, so I can\u2019t seek revenge, but I really don\u2019t hold on to stuff. It\u2019s just not who I am.\u2019<\/p>\n In her Netflix special, Ellen DeGeneres: For Your Approval, DeGeneres further addressed being \u2018kicked out of show business\u2019.<\/p>\n \u2018The \u201cbe kind\u201d girl wasn’t kind \u2014 that was the headline,\u2019 DeGeneres said of the way the media portrayed her in the wake of the allegations against her. \u2018Here’s the problem: I am a comedian who got a talk show, and I ended the show every day by saying, \u201cBe kind to one another.\u201d Had I ended my show by saying, \u201cGo f**k yourselves,\u201d people would’ve been pleasantly surprised to find out I’m kind.\u2019<\/p>\n She also opened up about her experiences in therapy during and after the backlash.\u2018I was in therapy for a while trying to deal with all the hatred that was coming at me, and it was not a common situation for a therapist to deal with,\u2019 DeGeneres recalled.<\/p>\n She continued: \u2018At one point, my therapist said, ‘Ellen, where do you get this idea that everyone hates you? And I said, \u201cWell, um, New York Times, Washington Post, Entertainment Weekly, Us Weekly. 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