{"id":847,"date":"2024-02-07T16:13:34","date_gmt":"2024-02-07T16:13:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/?p=847"},"modified":"2024-02-07T16:26:08","modified_gmt":"2024-02-07T16:26:08","slug":"tragedy-drugs-and-resurrection-the-story-of-david-johansens-new-york-dolls","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/2024\/02\/07\/tragedy-drugs-and-resurrection-the-story-of-david-johansens-new-york-dolls\/","title":{"rendered":"Tragedy, drugs and resurrection: The story of David Johansen&#8217;s New York Dolls"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_code module_class=&#8221;custom-cat&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; theme_builder_area=&#8221;post_content&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"fp-mojo-presents\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<\/p>\n<div class=\"fp-col-1\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t\t<pee class=\"tac text-white bold\">Mojo<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<\/p>\n<div class=\"fp-col-2\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t\t<pee class=\"tac text-grey bold\">Presents<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_code][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;article-title&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; header_font=&#8221;||||||||&#8221; header_text_align=&#8221;center&#8221; header_text_color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; header_font_size=&#8221;68px&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;40px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h1 class=\"p1\">David Johansen<\/h1>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;intro-text&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;center&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"3Bigintro\" align=\"left\"><span>Amid <span class=\"BigintroBold\">fallen friends<\/span> and mixed returns, the <span class=\"BigintroBold\">New York Dolls<\/span>\u2019 lipstick lothario gave <span class=\"BigintroBold\">\u201cmock rock\u201d<\/span> its heart and soul and, refreshingly, he <span class=\"BigintroBold\">regrets<\/span> <i>rien<\/i>. <span class=\"BigintroBold\">\u201cHistory is pretty much a fiction,\u201d<\/span> reckons <\/span><span class=\"5BigintroBoldArtist\"><span>David Johansen<\/span><\/span><span>.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;credit-main&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;||||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;center&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; theme_builder_area=&#8221;post_content&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Interview by <span style=\"color: #999999\">Alan Light<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2024\/02\/david_johansen_ge_18.jpg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;david johansen&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;text-with-dropcap&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"1Introdropcap\"><span>DAVID JOHANSEN SITS ON THE COUCH <\/span><span>in the living room of his wife\u2019s walk-up apartment on Manhattan\u2019s Upper West Side. The d\u00e9cor can only be described \u2013 in the words of one of his songs \u2013 as funky but chic. Scarves and wigs are draped over lamps. LPs by Arthur Prysock, Machito, Bohannon are on display. Black-and-white photos of Dolly Parton and the Brian Jones-era Rolling Stones adorn the walls. Johansen himself puffs on an e-cigarette and ponders the notion that after more than 40 years of making music as the singer of the pioneering New York Dolls, an acclaimed solo artist, and as lounge-lizard alter ego Buster Poindexter, he\u2019s currently juggling all of these configurations as ongoing concerns.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"1Introdropcap\"><span style=\"font-size: 18px\">\u201cWell, my life is an ongoing concern,\u201d he says with a chuckle. \u201cI\u2019m very concerned about it.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"0Introtext\"><span>In 1971, the Staten Island-born singer teamed up with Johnny Thunders, Sylvain Sylvain, Arthur \u2018Killer\u2019 Kane and Billy Murcia to form the New York Dolls. The band\u2019s stripped-down, balls-out sound \u2013 rooted in the groove and swagger of Chuck Berry and girl groups rather than the boogie\u2019n\u2019blues jams prevalent at the time \u2013 plus their outrageous, gender-blurring fashion sense helped pave the way for punk and glam. But the Dolls were beset by chaos. Murcia drowned in a bathtub following a drug overdose on the group\u2019s first trip to London (he was replaced by Jerry Nolan), and their two albums \u2013 1973\u2019s <i>New York Dolls <\/i>and 1974\u2019s <i>Too Much Too Soon <\/i>\u2013 flopped commercially. By the time punk\u2019s moment arrived in 1977 the Dolls were no more.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"0Introtext\"><span style=\"font-size: 18px\">Johansen, however, never slowed down, juggling musical projects and an acting career that included memorable turns in 1988\u2019s Scrooged and, more recently, HBO\u2019s prison drama Oz. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, the surviving Dolls (Thunders died of an overdose in 1991 and Nolan of a stroke the following year) reunited at the request of superfan Morrissey when the ex-Smith curated the 2004 Meltdown festival. A live album and a touching documentary were released following the triumphant show and, despite Kane\u2019s death soon afterwards, the Dolls went on to tour and release three more albums.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"0Introtext\"><span>Perhaps it\u2019s just as well, but Johansen is sanguine about a career that\u2019s more <i>succ\u00e8ss d\u2019estime<\/i>\u00a0than box-office blockbuster. \u201cThe less you try to accomplish, the better it is, \u201d he says, \u201cthe more loose, the more musical, the more fun. When people start getting serious about it, then it\u2019s not really conducive to making good music.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;text-with-dropcap&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b><span>What\u2019s the first music you remember hearing?<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">I think I heard Fats Domino or something in my father\u2019s car. My father was a very musical guy, he sang \u2013 my mother sang, too, but my father sang in front of people. I have five siblings, so there was always a lot of music there, and I kind of took it for granted. I would play my brother\u2019s records, much to his chagrin. I would go into my room \u2013 really the boys\u2019 room \u2013 and by listening to music, I could get away from the politics of the household for a while. My brother is five years older than me and when I got old enough to use the record player, maybe six or whatever, he was digging some pretty deep doo wop. He was into the Diablos and things like that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>When did it call out to you as something you wanted to be involved in?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">My time was so consumed as a child that I rarely thought about the future too much. I dug singing and dancing, though. I was maybe 13 and I started really digging Lightnin\u2019 Hopkins and Howlin\u2019 Wolf. I liked a lot of other things, as well; I like so many different kinds of music from different places in the world that it\u2019s hard to keep it all straight. It\u2019s all in this kind of primal musical ooze in my head. But I would get a record and sing along. I always sang along with The Platters, singing The Great Pretender and those really operatic songs, and Wilson Pickett, stuff that came out when I was coming of age. And then I got into wanting to perform it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>Did that seem attainable? It\u2019s a long way from Staten Island to Lightnin\u2019 Hopkins.<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">We used to have Hoot Night at the Jewish Community Centre. Kids with guitars would go to this little auditorium and get up and do numbers. I would do, like, Black Betty in a basso voice. It would be outrageous, but they would clap, \u201cVery nice\u2026 now I will sing A Maid Of Constant Sorrow.\u201d So I was into that, and then the guys I hung out with on the corner started talking about how we should have a band. One guy would say, \u201cI\u2019ll be the bass player.\u201d One guy would say, \u201cI was in the drum and bugle corps, so I\u2019ll be the drummer.\u201d And I just thought, \u201cWell, I\u2019m going to be the singer, because I\u2019m not gonna have these equipment schleppage issues.\u201d They would push the stuff in shopping carts, and I would show up with a harmonica in my pocket.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">So we started up, very rudimentary, doing In The Midnight Hour and songs like that at the Battle Of The Bands, at the church or whatever. We were called The Vagabond Missionaries. You can say, \u201cOh, I knew that I was going to be doing this forever,\u201d but I never really thought about what I was going to be doing, I just did. Then, when I was about 15, I went to Murray The K\u2019s show and Mitch Ryder came out and he wrecked the place. Something happened in that moment where I thought, \u201cI want to be in this scene and be with this kind of people.\u201d If there was one cataclysmic moment, that was it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>How did you hook up with the guys who became the Dolls?<\/b><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"5AnswerCopy\">I started living in the East Village when I was 17. I was working at this store on St Mark\u2019s Place where we used to, like, cut the Budweiser logo off a beer can and then fix it like a pop-art earring. In the basement, we would do mail order, cutting that stuff up and mailing it to Cleveland or whatever. And the owner had all these garish, kind of lurid costumes hanging all over the place, all these boas and rhinestone outfits and stuff like kings would wear in some kind of fantasy. It turns out that he was making costumes for Charles Ludlam\u2019s Ridiculous Theatrical Company. So I started going around to where they would rehearse and getting involved in that, playing guitar or doing the sound and lights. Sometimes I would be a spear-carrier or something. I would see the cats walking around on St Mark\u2019s and we had a similar aesthetic that made us notice each other.<\/p>\n<p class=\"5AnswerCopy\">There was a cat who lived in my building from Colombia, and he knew Billy, and said he knew these guys that were looking for a singer. So I said, \u201cYeah, I\u2019d like to check that out.\u201d One day, Billy and Arthur came to my door and said, \u201cWe got a band.\u201d As I recall, it was on 6th Street, and I think John [Genzale, aka Thunders] had a place on 10th Street and we went over there and started playing and then we were like, \u201cOK, let\u2019s have a band.\u201d They all knew Syl already, but he wasn\u2019t there that night; he was in Europe somewhere. He showed up one night from the airport, with a carpet bag and a guitar. He plugged in and I thought, \u201cNow this is really perfect.\u201d He had a very swinging way of playing, which we needed to make that thing balanced just right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"5AnswerCopy\"><b>Was the Dolls sound identifiable from the beginning?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"5AnswerCopy\">The whole thing with the Dolls, there was nothing really manufactured about it; it was just us doing the best we could do. It wasn\u2019t like we would talk about what we were going to sound like or what we were going to look like or anything, we just kinda did it. We would play and people would say, \u201cYou guys are great,\u201d and we\u2019d say, \u201cHey, people like it, let\u2019s just keep playing.\u201d At that time in the East Village there was a lot of burgeoning liberation movements going, so we became the band for those people. When we played Mercer [Arts Centre] it was a place for all these people who saw each other on the street but didn\u2019t really know each other. A lot of them went on and did really great things, so we were like the band of that scene for a while.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;pull-quote&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; header_2_text_align=&#8221;center&#8221; header_2_text_color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; header_2_font_size=&#8221;46px&#8221; header_2_line_height=&#8221;1.2em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\">\u00a0\u201cThere was nothing manufactured about the Dolls; it was just us doing the best we could.\u201d<\/h2>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b><span>Were there bands that you looked on as peers? Were you looking at The Stooges or anyone as doing something comparable?<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">I don\u2019t think I would compare like that; maybe some of the other guys would. I would see The Stooges and go, \u201cWow!\u201d But I wouldn\u2019t compartmentalise or anything. At that time we knew what we <i>didn\u2019t<\/i> want to be, but we didn\u2019t know what we wanted to be. There were certain bands I really liked in the late \u201960s. I thought Big Brother &amp; The Holding Company was a really great band. Not on purpose, but \u00a0I think we sounded a little like them \u2013 faster, but sonically some similarities there.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>How do you feel the recordings of the Dolls stand up?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">It\u2019s funny because when we got back together in \u201904, I listened to all the records and I thought, \u201cThese fucking records are great.\u201d They don\u2019t have dating tells on them \u2013 sometimes you hear a song and go, \u201cThat\u2019s an \u201980s record,\u201d but when you hear that, it could be from any decade. I guess because there wasn\u2019t anything else quite like it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>At one point, you said some really negative things about Todd Rundgren\u2019s production on the first record.<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">Maybe I did, I don\u2019t remember. I might have been intoxicated. That record happened so fast that Todd probably had a lot of pressure on him from everybody in the band, so it would be like producing a lot of people at once. I like that record. Maybe at one time it was kind of the rap of the day, to say, \u201cThis sucks, that sucks, you suck\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>Malcolm McLaren managed the band for a while. Tell us about that.<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">There\u2019s not a lot to tell. We knew Malcolm because he used to come to New York and be in these trade shows, and we were always trolling for clothes. All the people were showing their wares; you would go from room to room and people would buy the clothes for their stores. But on the last day, nobody wanted to schlep their stuff home, so they would sell it really cheap, so we would go down there and check out the stuff, and that\u2019s how we became friends with Malcolm.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">He was going through some kind of situation at home, so he came over and started getting really energetic \u2013 OK, boys, we\u2019re going to do this and that, and that was a period of maybe two months. He had a lot of really good work habits. He would make charts and lists of things to do and then cross them off when they were done. Once he came over with all these red leather clothes, which we had ordered, and we all tried them on, and me and Syl wrote the song Red Patent Leather.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>So you\u2019d already put the \u201cred\u201d idea in motion? Because it\u2019s usually told that he imposed this concept on you.<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">No, it was us. We said, \u201cLet\u2019s put up a Communist flag, and we\u2019ll make it a Communist party.\u201d We thought that was really funny. I think he said, \u201cI\u2019ll make red party favours,\u201d or some- thing. But he wanted to have a band, so I think when he went back he told all those guys hanging around his store, \u201cOh, I did this, I did that.\u201d That\u2019s how showbusiness works.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>Did the image, drugs and tragedy overshadow everything else about the Dolls?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">A lot of people conflate when the Dolls were around and five years later. When we were around, yeah, everybody took drugs, the whole neighbourhood did, but nobody was strung out or anything. Those cats started getting strung out a little later, and then people superimpose that. [Famed NY scenester] Danny Fields is fond of saying there is no history, there is no truth. History is just what it becomes; it\u2019s pretty much a fiction.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">I know John got into smack and saw God and he was no quitter, but that wasn\u2019t the scene for the majority of the time we spent together.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>But as the drugs came in harder, for Johnny and others, that must\u2019ve been hard to watch.<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">I remember we had a couple of incidents with John getting too high \u2013 but we all got too high. Everybody would get drunk, fucked up, it would always be somebody. But we were like a gang, so it was OK. We didn\u2019t have a very commercial or businesslike outlook on things. No one ever took us in hand and said, \u201cBoys, boys\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">I remember that Malcolm helped Arthur go to a dry-out clinic one time, and I didn\u2019t even know that those things existed.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2024\/02\/GettyImages-109364624-scaled.jpg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;New York Dolls&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;image-gallery-caption&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;|300|||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.2em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-10px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Jet Boys: New York Dolls&#8217; (l-r) Jerry Nolan, Sylvain Sylvain, David Johansen, Johnny Thunders, Arthur Kane in London, November 1973.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_divider color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; module_class=&#8221;custom-divider&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_divider][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b><span>What was it like seeing the punk movement starting up?<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">It wasn\u2019t a movement until it was over. When the Ramones came out and Punk magazine and all that, it wasn\u2019t the punk scene, it was just art or whatever. There were so many different groups when the CBGB thing came along, Blondie and Talking Heads and a lot of great bands that didn\u2019t really sound anything like each other. They didn\u2019t call it punk in \u201976 or whatever. Later they started calling it punk, and then it became this rigorous, almost military thing: \u201cYou play these three chords and this beat and if you don\u2019t play that, you\u2019re drummed out of the corps.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>You didn\u2019t think, \u201cWe did all this already!\u201d?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">No, I used to go [to CBGB] all the time. Those people were all my friends. When the Dolls were playing, those were our friends saying, \u201cOh, we\u2019re going to make a band!\u201d So no, that never crossed my mind. I don\u2019t really think like that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>McLaren said that the Sex Pistols were really just imitating the Dolls, studying each one of you and copying it.<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">You know, when we heard the Sex Pistols record, I thought, \u201cThat guitar sounds a lot like Dolls guitar.\u201d I just kind of assumed that\u2019s the way things were going. But everything that you do, you took from someplace else. Each person has all these micro-elements of things they dig floating around in their brain and when they put forth, it comes out as something else. So that sound definitely became part of the recipe, and it stuck out because the guitars and the words in the Dolls songs were not like the records that were going around at that time; there wasn\u2019t really any bands that were doing that. MC5 had that heavy thing and they came before us; we were inspired by them. But there\u2019s so many things \u2013 \u201cI like this group because of that guy\u2019s shoes, I like the hair on that group\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>Did you have a sense of what you wanted to do after the Dolls ended?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">After the Dolls, me and Syl played. We used to call ourselves the Doll-ettes. We had a great band, played a lot of insane gigs, had a lot of great adventures. But it wasn\u2019t a permanent thing. We were just keeping our chops up, and we were writing songs, like Frenchette, stuff like that. I can\u2019t remember exactly how that ended, but I met this guy, Frankie LaRocka, and he kept bugging me to come and hear this band he was working with in Staten Island. So I went over and they were like a ready-made band, playing in the garage. I really liked the way they sounded, so we started booking gigs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>Do you think history remembers the David Johansen band records well?<\/b><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"5AnswerCopy\"><span>I think so. I get a lot of compliments about those. That was when I really hit the road. We used to play like 280 nights a year, in a van. I put in several years doing that. We used to drive 300 miles, do a show, then drive 300 miles and sleep for a while, and then 300 more and do the next show, living in a van and crashing in motels as you go along. Constant touring like that is very educational for giving you the stuff that you need to really deliver every night. But it gets to the point where, Oh my God, I\u2019m going to kill myself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"5AnswerCopy\"><b>How did Buster Poindexter come about?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"5AnswerCopy\">In those days, we had the Walkman, and I used to get tapes of a lot of different kinds of music \u2013 jump blues and all kinds of things. So I started listening to all that in the van, and there used to be this bar on 15th Street I used to hang out in called Tramps. They would have Joe Turner there for three months, Charles Brown. But on Monday night, just the bar was open and the back was closed. I decided I would do this little cabaret for four Mondays, under the radar, just for fun. So we put out \u201cBuster Poindexter will be here Monday\u201d \u2013 like, who the fuck is that? We started doing that, and by the fourth Monday it was such a scene that we started doing weekends.<\/p>\n<p class=\"5AnswerCopy\"><b>You\u2019ve called Hot Hot Hot the bane of your existence.<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"5AnswerCopy\">Well, you know, there\u2019s a lot of things I say like that. I had been down in the Caribbean doing Buster and we heard that everywhere for a week, and I thought, \u201cThat\u2019s a cool song, let\u2019s play that when we go home.\u201d Then we recorded it and it was a hit. I went to my nephew\u2019s wedding and they made me sing it \u2013 it\u2019s excruciating! It hardly describes what the rest of the music is all about, but you put this thing out there and then people make it what they want it to be for them, and you can\u2019t expect anything else.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;pull-quote&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; header_2_text_align=&#8221;center&#8221; header_2_text_color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; header_2_font_size=&#8221;46px&#8221; header_2_line_height=&#8221;1.2em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\">\u201cThe less you try to accomplish, the better it is. The more loose, the more musical, the more fun.\u201d<\/h2>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b><span>Can you believe that, 30 years later, Buster is still in your life?<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">Buster is an opportunity for me to sing songs that I didn\u2019t write. And I go through phases with music where I get to a point where if I ever hear, like, another blues song, it\u2019ll be too soon. So I went on this whole Latin thing and did the <i>Buster\u2019s Spanish Rocket Ship<\/i> record [1997], which was really a hoot. Then when that was over, I started listening to Lightnin\u2019 Hopkins again, listening to these songs I thought I knew, and I was hearing them as like a different person. Music has that transcendent thing \u2013 you think you\u2019re hearing it, but then go away and be somebody else and come back and you\u2019re going to hear all this other stuff in there that you never noticed before. Soon after, they did some kind of anniversary programme at the Bottom Line [in Greenwich Village] where they had artists come in and do shows that were different to what they had been doing, so that\u2019s how we started doing [Johansen\u2019s folk-blues project] the Harry Smiths. We made a couple of records and played all over the place and got into another world of people, playing Newport Folk Festival and places I hadn\u2019t really been to before, which was kind of a cool thing. And I was simultaneously singing with [Howlin\u2019 Wolf\u2019s guitarist] Hubert Sumlin. We became really good friends and started doing a lot of \u2018Howlin\u2019 For Hubert\u2019 gigs, which was a whole other world, too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>And then in the middle of all this comes the 21st century New York Dolls reunion.<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">We didn\u2019t know that was going to happen. Morrissey wanted us to do this gig, and we went over to London, played at the Royal Festival Hall and stayed in a really nice hotel. Arthur was there and it was beautiful. Then Arthur got sick and passed away, but we were getting offers to play festivals around Europe and we thought, \u201cWe sound great, let\u2019s just do it.\u201d We just kept accepting dates and then it was a year later and we were like, \u201cI guess this is what we\u2019re doing,\u201d so we made a record. It was so great for me philosophically, because I was able to experience it and see where it took us, as opposed to trying to fit a square peg in a round hole and getting frustrated because it wasn\u2019t working. It was kind of a zen thing. It was really good \u2013 we went around the world three times, did three albums. We toured for eight years, which is more than most bands are together.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>Did you know that the interest, the hunger for the band was out there?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">It hadn\u2019t occurred to me. I don\u2019t know that it was hunger; it was curiosity. But also we\u2019re a pretty good rock\u2019n\u2019roll band, so people would come back and see us again. It wasn\u2019t Madame Tussaud\u2019s, it was a pretty good band.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>Does it feel like a resolution, a kind of justice, that after all these years of people talking about the commercial disappointment of the Dolls, now you\u2019re playing big stages, selling out all these rooms?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">This is the whole thing, this is the frigging psychosis of the times. You read about the Dolls and it\u2019s, \u201cOh, they failed to achieve commercial success\u201d \u2013 whatever, to the majority of the people, is success. Whereas when we were in the Dolls we were certainly not shooting for commercial success; we were in on the ground floor of this revolution that was going on, and it was the opposite of commercial. It wasn\u2019t <i>supposed<\/i>\u00a0to be commercial. But people can\u2019t wrap their head around that; that\u2019s an idea that\u2019s alien to most people. People are so into getting and spending that I don\u2019t even know if, when they\u2019re on their deathbed, they realise that they\u2019ve been shovelling shit for the man for the last 70 years. But there\u2019s a lot more to life than that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><b>What do you think is most misunderstood about the Dolls?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\">Oh, everything. New York Dolls was a very hip kind of collective for its time. We were very socially involved in the whole scene in the East Village \u2013 I guess you would call it the arts scene but that\u2019s such a corporate name now. At the time it was just people making stuff and doing stuff for political reasons. We inspired a lot of people. Not just musically, but to do and to get involved and have fun with it. If you think about what it is to be an artist, that\u2019s what you\u2019re supposed to do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"4Questioncopy\"><em>This article originally appeared in MOJO 256.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_divider color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; module_class=&#8221;custom-divider&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_divider][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;ss-custom-header&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Cabin|700|||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;35px&#8221; header_2_font=&#8221;Cabin|700|||||||&#8221; header_2_font_size=&#8221;35px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\"><span style=\"color: #999999\">PILLS <\/span>FOR <span style=\"color: #999999\">THRILLS<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;image-gallery-caption&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;|300|||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.2em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-10px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px|15px|15px|15px|false|true&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;boxout-subheader&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;22px&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;center&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><strong>Lois Wilson sifts three pearls from DJ&#8217;s box of delights.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;album-name&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Black Han Sans|700|||||||&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;22px&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||10px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"2Boxartist\"><span><strong>The glam\/punk bible!<\/strong> <br \/>New York Dolls<br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_code module_class=&#8221;star-rating-container&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||10px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"star-rating-wrap\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_code][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;record-label&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;||||||||&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;22px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\">(Mercury, 1973)<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;text-with-image&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2024\/02\/NewYorkDolls-NewYorkDolls1973.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-205 alignleft size-thumbnail\" \/><\/p>\n<div><span>From the provocative cover artwork \u2013 a snap of Johansen\/Thunders\/Kane\/Sylvain\/Nolan in heavy make-up, big hair and high-heeled boots \u2013 to the music inside \u2013 a sloppily played mesh of girl-group kitsch and street-suss trash \u2013 this is glorious spectacle. Produced by Todd Rundgren, their first album references The Rolling Stones, Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley, and \u2013 liberating in its daring and impudence \u2013 forms the bedrock of punk.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_divider color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; module_class=&#8221;custom-divider&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_divider][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;album-name&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Black Han Sans|700|||||||&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;22px&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||10px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\"><strong>The Tough But Tender One: <br \/><\/strong>David Johansen<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_code module_class=&#8221;star-rating-container&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||10px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"star-rating-wrap\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_code][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;record-label&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;||||||||&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;22px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">(Blue Sky, 1978)<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;text-with-image&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2024\/01\/David-Johansen-front.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-205 alignleft size-thumbnail\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span>The first of four albums for Columbia imprint Blue Sky, Johansen\u2019s solo debut places the Dolls\u2019 street aesthetic in a hard-rock setting, exemplified best on the Johansen-Sylvain co-write single, Funky But Chic. \u201cMama says I look fruity, but in jeans I feel rotten,\u201d sings Johansen, peacock-strutting over a Stonesy disco groove as Labelle\u2019s Sarah Dash and Nona Hendryx coo behind him.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_divider color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; module_class=&#8221;custom-divider&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_divider][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;album-name&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Black Han Sans|700|||||||&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;22px&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||10px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\"><strong>The Dolls Come Alive!<br \/><\/strong>One Day It Will Please Us To Remember Even This<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_code module_class=&#8221;star-rating-container&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||10px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"star-rating-wrap\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2023\/12\/star.png\" alt=\"star\" class=\"star-icon\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_code][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;record-label&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;||||||||&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;22px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">(Roadrunner, 2006<\/span>)<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;text-with-image&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/flatplan-plus-content.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2024\/02\/nydolls-layered.final_.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-205 alignleft size-thumbnail\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\">Belated third album by the two living dolls \u2013 Johansen and Sylvain \u2013 it has a heart full of soul and a belly full of mischief. Michael Stipe lends vocals on the countryish Dancing On The Lip Of A Volcano; Iggy Pop crashes Gimme Luv And Turn On The Light; Rainbow Store rewrites The Shangri-Las\u2019 Give Him A Great Big Kiss; glee-frugging Dance Like A Monkey invents the word \u201cpolymorphosise\u201d.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"NoParagraphStyle\"><span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><i>This article originally appeared in MOJO 266<\/i><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_divider color=&#8221;#111111&#8243; module_class=&#8221;custom-divider&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_divider][et_pb_text module_class=&#8221;credit-names&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.20.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;14px&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;center&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><strong>Images: <\/strong>Guy Eppel, Getty<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Amid fallen friends and mixed returns, the New York Dolls\u2019 lipstick lothario gave \u201cmock rock\u201d its heart and soul<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":820,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"on","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-847","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-the-mojo-interview"],"acf":[],"modified_by":"kschwarz","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/847","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=847"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/847\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":866,"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/847\/revisions\/866"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/820"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=847"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=847"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/flatplanplus.io\/mojo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=847"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}